Stays in place. He hosed and tamped the joints a couple of times, and Ive hosed them a couple more times since. When you re-lay you need to fit them bricks tighter. Thoughts on what we could use? An angle grinder or similar tool may be used. I had a flagstone patio laid 2 years ago. Quarries will sell it by the ton or by the yard, but a masonry supply place will usually let you fill a five-gallon bucket. Thanks. This can wreck the flat surface you are making. If its built upon concrete, then it should be repaired with mortar. My wife and I are interested in a new brown wave patio. Half inch, quarter inch, eighth an inchany of those would workso long as they have fines3/8 is what I usually use, but I work around the country, and sizes/names vary slightly yet every place Ive been wcarries something like this. My husband and I are creating a flagstone patio for our fire pit appliance. https://www.devineescapes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/zzz.jpg. One of the benefits of a gravel driveway is that it is relatively inexpensive to install, typically around $1-$3 per square foot. And with a 3/4 gap between the flagstones, like you said. Stone dust/decomposed granite would work well in the dry months, but in North Californias rainy season..Im just concerned that the trenches have concrete at the bottom, so the stone dust would have no way to dry out, for months at a time. Maybe 6 yardS of 1/4 minus (decomposed granite is more expensive, just ask for 1/4 minus, or pathway fines). I had planned to use decomposed granite for bedding and also in the joints. if yes, how do i make it firm permanently, such that i can have basketball tiles placed on that surface. Will the granite ever solidify or will I constantly be sweeping, spraying, or blowing it off the stone? Removing the grout is going to be a horrendous job. Well, its more complicated than that. Wait till the joint is somewhat damp, but not soaking and the fill with mortar. Devin, Before my enlightenment my aha! Ive heard and read about some concerns about the limestone breaking down the flag over time, as well as concerns for efflorescence. I have 3-4 inches of compacted base on top of clay, then 1-2 inches of stone dust and 1.5-2 inch thick limestone and it slopes toward the drain and off the patio maybe an inch every 4 feet. Get some cement , not sand mix or concrete . Also avoid non-porous rocks like pea gravel, river rocks, fish rocks, sand, glass marbles, etc. What I use is stone dust AKA screenings. I am a contractor working on a large home renovation project in Northern California. It is an excellent material for leveling out your flagstonesthe best in my opinion, and likewise it is the best joint filler for flagstones. I live in mid-state NJ and had a 17x30 ft. bluestone patio installed over a previously existing concrete patio base. Excellent advice! But after reading your postings I am not sure what to do. We need to replace the joints and extend the patio 10 feet. Most polymeric sand manufacturers offer at least two colors that match 95% of the interlocking pavers on the marketplace today: tan and grey. Great article Devin. Still, this stuff is what you are asking me for. Here you can buy grey gravel, red gravel and cream colored gravel.stone dust is available in those very same colors, because stone dust is graveljust smaller. Does anything on this page (http://highlandls.com/products/) or this page (https://www.landscapeandgarden.com/gravel-decorative-rock) jump out to you as being the product you recommend? And be sure to not overfill your jointsthe stone dust/DG should be a bit shy of the tops of your flagstones. I am in the midwest and that is the closest thing I can find that probably matches what you described in your article. Polymeric sand is no good. They didnt just turn to slosh. good luck and let me know how it goesmaybe you can teach me something on the subject , Hi Devin, your blog on polymeric sand was very helpful. Mind you, 2 is kind of thick for a stone dust bed and if youre joints are on the large side.and if you got an absurd amount of rain.but it still sounds funny to me. We have a large concrete patio(800 sq ft?) The article above addresses flagstone joints in a dry laid applicationwith a gravel foundation. First off, thank you for giving your location! Low void content, contains fines, is used as road foundations. Additionally, the stabilization method will depend on what your final product is going to be. Were expanding the deck so were going to rescue the patio and relocate it. I would then proceed to use screening in between joints. Call your local quarry. What is the ideal size joint? Me, I usually go 6+ in northern regions, 4+ in warmer places. All that space that was filled with water is now air, so its a weak concrete. I filled each joint half full and then ran a light plate compactor (with rubber protector matt between the plate and the stone this vibrated the sand down into all the voids at the bottom of each joint) then I came back through with the grout bag and filled the joint to the approximately 1/8th of an inch below the top surface of the flagstone. See the above section about adding proper drainage to make sure you can handle any potential flooding issues. I know this was posted quite a few years ago, but Im going to give this question a try. Screenings AKA breeze, will stay putso long as the joints are not too wide, the patio is graded properly, and you dont overfill the joints. The, after laying the flagstone you re-plant the sod between the stones. The look is great, however, it is too soft for their liking. This requires re-raking.The four dog kennels are relatively easy to maintain. Any ideas for adding curb appeal to this small house? Place the pea gravel on top of the concrete mix and level it out with the trowel. Then, pour about three inches of pea gravel on top of this base layer. Read that againstone dust settling down in-between flagstone is a GOOD thing. Organic materials will not compact enough to support vehicle traffic. Best thing you can do to extend the life of your patio mortar joints, living in Colorado or any place with harsh wintersis to stay on top of the snow. Permeable pavers also provide stability while maintaining permeability. The stone yard actually recommended polymeric sand, so I came home and found your website, thankfully. A gap much wider than half an inch will become a minor puddle spotand that water will go down into the ground. Is it well compacted? Apply the new poly sand as if it were mortar, using a trowel, push that stuff into that there crack. You cant really hide the edge thoughso dont bother trying to hide it, but go with an edge that you like the look of. If it still collects lots of water, its a good indicator that you need to dig a drainage trench. I think I have seen bags of paver base or something like that. Clay base, with about 4 of 1/4 clear gravel, followed by 1 of screening before putting down 20 X 20 patio slabs with next to nothing for gaps. Do I start with stone dust and then add a top layer of topsoil? Maybe a channel drain, along the wall furthest from the house? Devin, Thanks for all your thoughtful advise. Very informative articles. I just used stone dust (screenings) as a leveler and in between flagstones. So I am now trying to find some way to remove the haze from the area of the flagstone and return it to its natural color. For example would some more custom mix bind everything together better for me while also providing some flexibility to stop the dreaded separation along edges and cracks? These will be an acrylic polymer epoxy resign stuff.essentially, liquid plastic. Push down on it, one corner of the stone at a time. Where do you buy your screenings in Pennsylvania? A professional, who will talk with you on the phone, and walk you through the process of laying flagstone, repairing flagstone, or any other such situation? In my experience a wire-brush + elbow grease will get *some* of it up, when its fresh. work the soil to a depth of approximately 5 to 6 inches, How To Keep Gravel In Place In A Driveway. It makes me crazy because when it rains or the wind blows, it seems to go everywhere. All around, cleaning up the poly sand haze is either a speculative affair, or a dangerous blow torch deal, best left to professionals! The larger material will help to jam up the drainage-cut, making it so less fines settle down below the concrete, while still letting water drain. Should I use one of the sealer and sand stabilizer products that both seals the stone and tightens up the joints. We got heavy rain and its very wet and now some of the stones move and are sloshing around in the stone dust there are no pools of water but its really soft and the lots of the stones move and almost slosh down when stepped on. I had been tempted to use polymeric sand, but plan not to use it now. That number will improve, over the months, as stones settle in. (a careful pass with the pressure washer shouldnt damage the stones. Oh and 5. the environment.This stuff is not good for our eco system, our planet, beloved mama earth. I think your solution is the answer. (P.S. Basic advice can be free but you worked hard and long to get those skills and knowledge. they were sagging, and needed to be re-done, so why not try to re-purpose them into a patio for our growing family. and our To avoid getting the screenings all over your flagstone patio, just aim to have the joints filled to about one eighth of an inch from the stones surface. Id just power wash the whole thing., some joint material may bust loose just from the water.Then Id take a large flathead screwdriver and start prying out joint material. . ", Here is a link that might be useful: Stabilizer Solution. Hello Devin, We found your article a little too late. However, it will reduce permeability, causing water runoff. Ive seen people do this where the joints were significantly larger than the size which you described as acceptable. And I also offer DIY phone consultations, in case my articles are not enough to help you with your flagstone questions. Thanks! Great article and Q&As! DIY flagstone help and phone consultations, in stone dust and use stone dust as a joint material, simply pour boiling water on the unwanted plants, https://www.devineescapes.com/flagstone-repair-explained/, https://www.devineescapes.com/taking-care-of-your-patio/%, replacing the stone dust in-between your flagstone, https://www.devineescapes.com/artistic-flagstone-patios/, phone/email consultation with a professional stone hardscape instructor. We have a large sandstone flag patio, installed in 2011 by a company that used poly sand in the joints. Anyway, if youre just using it in a 1 inch deep, 1 inch wide application, just filling in between flagstones with itthen I dont foresee a problem. An inch of slope per four feet is right, water should flow. Its kind of silly but often people have screenings/breeze/DG all over their flagstones for the simple reason that they insisted on filling the joints in between the stones all the way to the tippy top. Really, the screenings are made ofsmall chips of stone, about one eighth of an inch in size, with tiny powder-like fine material mixed in as well. I have a kennel enclosure with 4 10'x10' kennels and an exercise yard 30'x40'. Sweeping dg into the joints again, because some voids will have appeared after the first hose down, then hosing down again. Quick question: in cases where the polymeric sand has left a white haze on the slate as you mentioned, what is the best way to remove the haze? Possibly free too, if you have gravel onsite. Im replacing an existing paver patio that was installed on a gravel/stone dust base with flagstones. How can I offer landscape advice if I dont know your climate? Do you think I can drop level on top of the brick 1 to 1 1/2 inches of screening as base, then lay these patio stones on top? water@tramfloc.com; Fax 480-383-6895; Call us! How old is your patio? Now, my joints were set tight, maybe half inch widewider joints than that might be an issue. Well obviously thats absurd. Desperately need advice for how to improve curb appeal. Yes, he was almost certainly talking about screenings. Thanks again! 3. Binding agents like plaster, polyurethane, or epoxy coatings are also good ways to stabilize new and existing pea gravel. Using pavers, like TRUEGRID pavers, to stabilize your pea gravel walkway is another option. Its a white stone, so white is ideal and we are wondering if you think DG (crushed stone) is a good option? Thanks for your vet insightful information! Once the gravel is completely loose and all objects removed, it should be tamped down using either a hand tamper . Looks like it was not sealed properly. Either way, best of luck to you on your flagstone repair! Use a broom to fill gaps. Will screening be all over patio? Mr. Devin, I have a concrete sidewalk that meanders down to a dock by the lake. Add another substrate like sand, dry cement (not concrete), stone dust. Ive seen this both here in eastern Pennsylvania and out where you live. The gravel was solidly stuck together. The red, being more rare, is sometimes available in bagged form, in garden centers, but not in bulk at the mason supply places or quarries (where I usually get my screenings, because as a contractor, Im usually buying at least a yard.). Personally, my preference is to merely lay larger stone along the edge of the patiohave all of your edge flagstones, large. We have paver sand i the joints now. JavaScript is disabled. Alas, Ive been a bit busy with tentacles and planetoids, and also with helping DIY enthusiasts with their own projects. Also, in your article about using gravel, can you use AB3 or Crusher Run? Not to be pendantic! Even grass seed maybe. Dry laid is hugely my preference, in any place with a freeze-thaw cycle. Resulted in ugly haze. If the patio is dry laid, on a sand/gravel or stone dust foundation..then theres should not be anything portland cement based in the joints. these fines, when dampened, actually do bind up with the larger chips, becoming semi-solid. 1. I researched the heck out of polymeric sand, and tested out three different kinds. If you just have sand in.and no road base gravelthen absolutely, take up the flagstone and do it all over. 2. Main problem I see so far is that those are pretty thin flagstones for dry laid. Decomposed granite is the same thing. Best,Aaron. pressure washing will definitely break screenings/decomposed granite loose from the joints. Do you have pea gravel? After only 2 months the patio has developed a cavity probably 12-18 deep with an oblong hole in the sand about 6 long. Also, it gives a patio a good appearance, to have all larger stones along the edge. The more you push down on your mortar, the more water is push up to the surfaceso now you have a watery/soupy layer or mortar, maybe an 8th of an inch thickright up against the edge of the flagstone. And Ive had to repair and replace many such patios.same effect happens when someone decides to cement together the cap of a dry stone wall. Wait a minutethis cavity is 18 inches deep? Just sweep the decomposed granite into the cracks between the stones, then turn on the shower to set the DG/stone dust into place. Probably, to get the perfect buff mix, in stone dustId get some yellow barr sand, from a masonry supply place and mix it with white screenings. The water from the hose will cause the screenings to settlebut Ill also use the hose to wash out any joints where the stone dust remains even with the top of the flagstone because ultimately, what you want is to have the joints filled to about a quarter inch or so from the top of the flagstone. If you set your flagstones upon a gravel foundation/on a bed of sand or stone dustthen fill your joints with stone dust. It works well. How big are the gaps between the flagstones? Thanks in advance for your comments. Actually, one extra stepthey like you to first excavate for your walkway, then lay out this plastic honeycomb material, then fill that honeycomb with clean gravelits a two inch thick honeycomb, then pour 2 of the gravel glue mix on top of that.so you need to get your excavation fairly level for the honeycomb to sit right.you also need to set an edging material of some kind before you pour the glue gravel stuffwe used two x fours, staked into place, which we removed after the walkway was set, after the glue had hardened. I first started seeing this stuff about fifteen years ago. Wed like to use a contrasting product to highlight the design and fill in the empty space. Then top off with extra stone dust, hose down, etc. see if it works. Im 61 and have hauled a TON of this slate. I have used it quite successfully in the past, albeit with concrete pavers; the haze isnt as bothersome and didnt seem to last. Even after several rains and power washing them, it is prevalent. is this a bad practice? Its liquid plastic, alright. Hello Devin, thank you for the very informative article. Further, the stone dust I have seen is just the flour part of the DG that you describe using, without any of the 1/8 particles. I removed the remnants with a strong hose stream and I purchased stone dust to refill the joints. I think that where there is soil, the rain results in dirty water covering the stones, making them dirty more quickly than might be expected. We visited a tourist attraction that had done this. This is ideal for new pea gravel installation. I can confidently Perhaps they can offer some ideas. https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/8f8e41ef-21f0-4fba-beda-fcb652335ff0/svn/quikrete-masonry-mortar-mix-a003a-64_1000.jpg. You simply sweep the material into the flagstone (or other paver) joints, lightly hose down, then it solidifies. Have you seen this water proofing used before to settle the quarry dust? Im glad that you appreciate my work. Great article Devin. I live in Texas with the soil is mixed clay and moves a lot. http://www.stepables.com/ stepables . Old timbers get new life as a decorative element in a cottage renovation. Patio I built in Northern California circa 2018. btw, the photo you emailed me looks GREAT. Then the top inch or 2 with the stone dust. Installing loose pea gravel is relatively simple compared to other hardscaping materials. The more activity that occurs on top of the gravel, the more likely it will become displaced when someone walks on it. DIY flagstone advice from a guy at Lowessounds dangerous. (Note: I am not a professional, but love to DYI landscape). Properly installed, rain washing the decomposed granite out from in between the flagstones should not be a problem. But screenings are only used in dry laid application. Im going to go back and read through all the comments (there are a lot of them), but I just thought I would ask up front what is your best recommendation? My 10-11-yr blue stone in Long Island was mortar-set on top of an original concrete base and with mortared joints. Just an aesthetic issue. Thanks for your colorful commentary and your insight (with years and years of experience). This is a big project that you are describing.. Id recommend that you spend some time reading my other DIY flagstone articles. Ill Probably go with your suggestion of screenings or DG. To solve this issue, apply WD-40 after wiping off the bottom of the tamper. Shove some stuff under there. And this picture right here, makes it even better. Ohyoure saying the flagstone patio is dry laid and is adjacent to the mortared step and walkway. Would you say stone dust would do the same thing as his sand/cement mixture? Ive created a 15 x 15 flagstone patio using 1.5-2.5 mostly flat, some irregular stones. Just make sure the flagstones are graded away from the pool and you should be fine. Thank you very much. Therefore, be aware of the possibility of water running off to the edges and plan accordingly. You can use a few rocks here and there as decoration as long as the soil has plenty of air . Or am I better of using top soil? You also have to be very careful that the joint is filled all the way, and also make sure that there is no material left on top of the paving units, before you hose down. Each stone has been set and packed by hand (earth first packed by hammer, then stones packed with wood and hammer, sometimes jumping). Podcast 529: Members-only AftershowHow Good is Good Enough? Id use stone dust.but if possible, Id tighten them joints up a bit. Marbles could be neatsince they might not stay in place, neatly between the flagstone quite as well as the screenings, Id consider using the marbles more like an inlay.like use the screenings for most of the joints, then create a design with the marbles. Now I am stuck with what is the best material to fill the cracks. Likewise, you never joint with stone dust, sand, poly sand or DG in a wet-laid scenario. Or small pebbles..but the thing is, that small voids may likely form beneath some of your patio stones. Hi I have dog kennel for my dog and I was wondering .Should I use pea gravel or cement I wont something easy to clean. Some joints are huge with tiny stones sort of floating in concrete. Orange oil. Devin, You are absolutely the best source of info concerning flagstone installation. This project will be my first. Get home building tips, offers, and expert advice in your inbox. Thank you Devin! Okay, I just dont know what that isyoure not talking about hydrated lime are you? Naturally it failed. Wondering if you might have a quick second to let me know your thoughts on a recent dilemma. Related content: dry stone spheres by Devin Devine. My process is described in this article: how to fill flagstone joints. The original plan to use the polymeric sand to seal the joints is long jettisoned after reading your blog here and others how it destroys the shine and luster of the native rock. I just installed a natural stone patio and was researching poly sand for filling the cracks when I came across your article. Do you need hardscape help? Hello Devin, I live in Ottawa, Canada and we have an old flagstone pathway. I was planning on Breeze but hear it will be tracked into the house and wash away. I would look under the sink and see if you have any orange based cleaning products. Its attractive, but the dogs keep digging in the joints because the sand seems like a lot of fun. the concrete is cracking, stones around the edges appear to lifting. Thank you again and Best Regards! My patio is quite old 30 years, or more. 1. But I couldn't find it in Utah, and I also read that it sticks to your shoes and becomes a sanding agent if you have wood floors, which I do. Not a big fan of waterproofing goop being sprayed into stone screenings either. Get a product called gravel lok or a pebble binder product use them a lot they work great. I don't know if it is chemically dog friendly. I have mostly smaller spaces between the stones but there are some areas up to 3 wide. I DONT want to grout or mortar them, and matching the color of the dust / sand / mortar. So fun, so tiring!). Is this a different product or same thing but a different name? It looks pretty cool as well. Natural flagstone, concrete paver and ceramic brick patios and walkways are set upon gravel foundations, their joints then need to be filled. Or let it happen on its own. First of all, what? I intend to lay one 12 x 5 long 2 inch thick tread on top of the cinder block. But then, it its still more rigid and solid than we want, for flagstone joints. The cobblestones..1 inch gap sounds large. I might get a bag and experiment with a small section, maybe at the start of the driveway. Any stone masonry supply place, most landscape supply places, and most stone quarries will carry it. They come out with new gimmicky products all the time, new products come and go. You can choose from various materials like plastic edging or metal borders. We dont want to worry about spilled water when gardening, so permeable is good. Id make the stones fit well first (assuming that the polymeric sand users left big gaps like they usually do), with a half inch (or so) gap between the stones. Have returned to this post many times. Im glad we didnt go with polymeric sand! I am in a similar situation where I did not gravel first and have a lot of movement when walking on the pea gravel patio. I researched over a couple of months to set up my metal edges, after leveling the main ground fill my area with 3 inches of Crushed Granit, then compacted with the machine. What do you suggest for front stair edges to prevent the stone from being tippy? does polymeric come in colors? Would prefer to be able to pressure wash is once in a while, so does stone dust make it impossible to pressure wash them? Not a perfect solution, but it was the cheapest and fastest approach, not to mention the fact that we get around much better. Anywayssince you just used local soil, and built it yourself rather than hiring a mason, we can pretty much just say Well, it may not be perfect, but its got heart!. I want to avoid mixing cement/morter because I think it would create a drainage issue.Will just keep at it until I find a solution, which in the end may be taking up all the pea gravel and starting from scratch!Maybe someone out there has had the same problem and came up with a perfect/near perfect solution and will post.Murphy. Soil only becomes dirt if it gets somewhere it does not belong. I have completed about 25% of the 800 sf of patio and walkway via this method. Hi Devin. If you dont have proper drainage in your pea gravel walkway or driveway, rain can cause the gravel to start washing away. I then took a blower and carefully blew away the very small amount of dust that accumulated on the open surface of the flagstone as a result of the vibrating process. I plan to move every stone out to the opposite side and keep the pattern intact. 46 tons spread out over 4,000 square feet3/4 material, fairly rounded. what do you think? 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