To be gravely affected, one does not necessarily have to drink a long time nor take the quantities some of us have. Being certain he wants to stop, you can go to him with this volume as joyfully as though you had struck oil. Let us have a look at some of them. One day I went to Washington to present some accounting evidence to a government bureau. Without embracing the literature, success in AA is difficult. I saw that growth could start from that point. how many words are in the first 164 pages of the big book . 4-b. Some time passed, and confidence began to be replaced by cock-sureness. Under these conditions we naturally made mistakes. I told him he was through-finally and forever. Keep on the firing line of life with these motives and God will keep you unharmed. It was the obituary of one of the best salesmen I ever had. I saw that my friend was much more than inwardly reorganized. After consulting with his wife and partner he came to the conclusion that is was better to take those risks than to stand before his Creator guilty of such ruinous slander. Why? Suggest how important it is that he place the welfare of other people ahead of his own. He knows that they are real. Nazar Paulista, Pedra Bela, Pedreira, Pinhalzinho, Piracaia, Serra Negra, Valinhos, Vrzea Paulista e The first 164 pages in word .doc format. If it is a happy occasion, try to increase the pleasure of those there; if a business occasion, go and attend to your business enthusiastically. As a celebrated American statesman put it, Lets look at the record.. Many a man, yet dazed from his hospital experience, has stepped over the threshold of that home into freedom. Opinions vary considerably as to why the alcoholic reacts differently from normal people. He is unable to focus on anything else. This went on endlessly, and I began to waken very early in the morning shaking violently. So to you out there-who may soon be with us-we say Good luck and God bless you!. A new life has been given us or, if you prefer, a design for living that really works. I ordered another sandwich and decided to have another glass of milk. And so can you, though you be but one man with this book in your hand. At midnight he came home exhausted, but very happy. And even if they did not love their families, how could they be so blind about themselves? So, in one way or another, we discovered that faith had been involved all the time! Never was I to pray for myself, except as my requests bore on my usefulness to others. I expressed my entire willingness to approach these individuals, admitting my wrong. There you will find release from care, boredom and worry. A good personal image will ensure positive, lasting first impressions and can lea. Here they are, the 82 occurrences of the word Must found In Alcoholics Anonymous 4th edition THE DOCTORS OPINION 1) PAGE xxiii: After 21 years of sobriety and about 14 devoted to the program in the book I have found out a simple fact. If that is so we are sorry, for we ourselves dont always care for people who lecture us. As our work spreads and our numbers increase, we hope your employees may be put in personal contact with some of us. The ticker still clattered. Our so-called will power becomes practically nonexistent. God didnt do it. If a mere code of morals or a better philosophy of life were sufficient to overcome alcoholism, many of us would have recovered long ago. He said to the doctor, Is there no exception?, Yes, replied the doctor, there is. Both of you will awaken to a new sense of responsibility for others. Many who once were in this class are now among our members. He found a total of 401 changes to the first 164 pages. Why? Our actor is self-centered-ego-centric, as people like to call it nowadays. We began to see that the world and its people really dominated us. You can secure their confidence when others fail. To the precise extent that we permit these, do we squander the hours that might have been worth while. We will seldom be interested in liquor. There is a good bit of travel between East and West and we foresee a great increase in this helpful interchange. Were our contentions true, it would follow that life originated out of nothing, means nothing, and proceeds nowhere. Are the stones properly in place? Showing others who suffer how we were given help is the very thing which makes life seem so worth while to us now. We are not fighting it, neither are we avoiding temptation. The title page says it all. He might be shocked if he knew how much alcoholism is costing his organization a year. Avoid urging him to follow our program. The first 164 pages walk us through the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous. After making our review we ask Gods forgiveness and inquire what corrective measures should be taken. I was to know happiness, peace, and usefulness, in a way of life that is incredibly more wonderful as time passes. First Edition of the Big Book. If we were to live, we had to be free of anger. We think we have done well enough in admitting these things to ourselves. People of faith have a logical idea of what life is all about. Sometimes we hear an alcoholic say that the only thing he needs to do is to keep sober. It is not to be expected that an alcoholic employee will receive a disproportionate amount of time and attention. Many, we are sure, will rise to their feet and march on. Several of our crowd, men of thirty or less, had been drinking only a few years, but they found themselves as helpless as those who had been drinking twenty years. The 164 and More Book, eBook, and Web Site are all CONCORDANCES which display passages from the Big Book Alcoholics Anonymous, the Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, and the A.A. Grapevine (A.A. Preamble only). They often jeopardize their own positions by trying to help serious drinkers who should have been fired long ago, or else given an opportunity to get well. But be sure you are on solid spiritual ground before you start and that your motive in going is thoroughly good. It is a design for living that works in rough going. You may have the reverse situation on your hands. First, there were many. That was great news to us, for we had assumed we could not make use of spiritual principles unless we accepted many things on faith which seemed difficult to believe. Can his past absurdities be forgotten? We have found nothing incompatible between a powerful spiritual experience and a life of sane and happy usefulness. Here is a case in point: One of our friends is a heavy smoker and coffee drinker. Never forget that resentment is a deadly hazard to an alcoholic. How many copies of the Second Edition were sold or distributed? I was through forever. I rather appreciated your ideas about the subtle insanity which precedes the first drink, but I was confident it could not happen to me after what I had learned. He wants to quit drinking and you want to help him, even if it be only a matter of good business. But the more we fought and tried to have our own way, the worse matters got. Simple, but not easy; a price had to be paid. We realize some men are thoroughly bad-intentioned, that no amount of patience will make any difference. They see its significance everywhere. These things will come to pass naturally and in good time provided, however, the alcoholic continues to demonstrate that he can be sober, considerate, and helpful, regardless of what anyone says or does. It is open, we believe, to all men. You will be handicapped if you arouse it. We ought to sit down with the family and frankly analyze the past as we now see it, being very careful not to criticize them. Aint it grand the wind stopped blowin?. It crowded out all else: This man recounts that he tumbled out of bed to his knees. I was aghast. If that be the case, you may be suffering from an illness which only a spiritual experience will conquer. For most alcoholics who are drinking, or who are just getting over a spree, a certain amount of physical treatment is desirable, even imperative. Talk about his condition or this book only when he raises the issue. He has been placed in one institution after another. Stepping into his car, he made the rounds of people he had hurt. This sort of thinking had to be abandoned. We hope the doctor will tell the patient the truth about his condition, whatever that happens to be. Yet early next morning he searches madly for the bottle he misplaced the night before. He would do anything, he said, but that. Come, whats this all about? I queried. This resulted in A.A.'s first group, at Akron, Ohio, in 1935. such cases was not so well understood as it is now. We realize we know only a little. Four days before he had hanged himself in his woodshed. The 164 and More web site. You would expect him, if he were normal, to cut it out. When the time for living together has come, it will be apparent to both parties. While on the subject of confidence, can you adopt the attitude that so far as you are concerned this will be a strictly personal matter, that his alcoholic derelictions, the treatment about to be undertaken, will never be discussed without his consent? We have seen the truth demonstrated again and again: Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. Commencing to drink after a period of sobriety, we are in a short time as bad as ever. We urge you to try our program, for nothing will be so helpful to your husband as the radically changed attitude toward him which God will show you how to have. And even though he continues to drink, the family will find life more bearable. You are sure to find someone desperate enough to accept with eagerness what you offer. Because there are no size constraints on the web site, fewer common words are needed.Common words are still used on the web site since some words are just not useful when researching the A.A. literature. There is every evidence that women regain their health as readily as men if they try our suggestions. We have believed them when no one else could or would. Take away my difficulties, that victory over them may bear witness to those I would help of Thy Power, Thy Love, and Thy Way of life. If he has your will power and guts, he will make the grade.. A few are fortunate enough to be so situated that they can give nearly all their time to the work. We meet frequently so that newcomers may find the fellowship they seek. Following his discharge, we contacted him. He could see the gay crowd inside. Our own recovery proves that! The head of the house ought to remember that he is mainly to blame for what befell his home. So we let God discipline us in the simple way we have just outlined. But what about his responsibilities-his family and the men who would die because they would not know how to get well, ah-yes, those other alcoholics? To give up resistance: He finally capitulated and agreed to do the job my way. Massage Envy Membership Cancellation, That is the miracle of it. Words contained within the first 164 pages of the Big Book. Self-seeking will slip away. A morning paper told me the market had gone to hell again. We liked it. As a moderate drinker, you can take your liquor or leave it alone. It is important for him to realize that your attempt to pass this on to him plays a vital part in your own recovery. Judging from what I had seen in Europe and since, the power of God in human affairs was negligible, the Brotherhood of Man a grim jest. About half our original fellowship were of exactly that type. When your man is better, the doctor might suggest a visit from you. Does this mean we are going to get drunk? At least, so the chemist said. He had come to pass his experience along to me-if I cared to have it. They are all disappointed, and often let him feel it. It will permit the rehabilitation of good men. The verdict of the ages is that faith means courage. But where and how were we to find this Power? If we havent the will to do this, we ask until it comes. The age of miracles is still with us. We, who have recovered from serious drinking, are miracles of mental health. Could we have been so mistaken in the men we married? If he is alcoholic, he will understand you at once. Now these are commonplace observations on drinkers which we hear all the time. Chapters describing the A.A. recovery program remain unchanged. Their young minds were impressionable while he was drinking. His reaction may be one of enthusiasm. If we still cling to something we will not let go, we ask God to help us be willing. He added that occasionally in the night a vague craving arose which would be satisfied by candy. We often need it to carry green recruits through a severe hangover Some of us still serve it to our friends provided they are not alcoholic. So many want to stop but cannot. At first, some of us did not believe we needed this help. We asked His protection and care with complete abandon. Wherever men are gathered together in business there will be rivalries and, arising out of these, a certain amount of office politics. Why lay ourselves open to being branded fanatics or religious bores? Bills Story. You and your husband will find that you can dispose of serious problems easier than you can the trivial ones. The word God, or a variant of Him, appears 281 times in the first 164 pages of the Big Book. 38 On the second page of A Vision For You, p. 52, what is mentioned is as a sufficient substitute for liquor? We are men and women in recovery who depend on the program described in the basic text (the first 164 pages) of the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous. There are many helpful books also. Continue to watch for selfishness, dishonesty, resentment, and fear. We know that while the alcoholic keeps away from drink, as he may do for months or years, he reacts much like other men. As a class, alcoholics are energetic people. But not so with the alcoholic illness, for with it there goes annihilation of all the things worth while in life. In our personal stories you will find a wide variation in the way each teller approaches and conceives of the Power which is greater than himself. Young Picture Books aim for the 2 to 5-year-old. In some cases the wife will never come back for one reason or another. From it stem all forms of spiritual disease, for we have been not only mentally and physically ill, we have been spiritually sick. You might suggest that you both take an interest in them. God comes to most men gradually, but His impact on me was sudden and profound. On the third day the lawyer gave his life to the care and direction of his Creator, and said he was perfectly willing to do anything necessary. Get him to tell some of his. And then, with a better motive, had we not worshipfully beheld the sunset, the sea, or a flower? Our ideas did not work. It hadnt even come to mind. His friends have slipped away, his home is a near-wreck and he cannot hold a position. We are not cured of alcoholism. If you live in a large place, there are hundreds. A man we know had remarried. Our fears fall from us. Then, under one provocation or another, the aggrieved one would unearth the old affair and angrily cast its ashes about. As we shall see, he now means a great deal to his community, and the major liabilities of thirty years of hard drinking have been repaired in four. I dare to disagree with the words of Bill Wilson. They work hard and they play hard. This painful past may be of infinite value to other families still struggling with their problem. There was that time we had chartered an airplane to complete a jag! Painfully aware of being somehow abnormal, the man did not fully realize what it meant to be alcoholic. You would suppose that men in the fourth classification would be quite hopeless, but that is not so. WITH FEW EXCEPTIONS, our book thus far has spoken of men. When his wife next calls saying he is sick, you might jump to the conclusion he is drunk. 1. For his sake, we do recount and almost relive the horrors of our past. The wisdom from the Big Book isnt limited to 10 quotes. Far from it. There is another thing you might wish to do. Those having religious affiliations will find here nothing disturbing to their beliefs or ceremonies. Twenty-two, and a veteran of foreign wars, I went home at last. This world is full of people like him. It means release from care, boredom and worry. I would need it before daylight. He trembles to think someone might have observed him. Note: You don't need a two-sided printer to print on both sides. Now we try to put spiritual principles to work in every department of our lives. If you are sure your man does not want to stop, he may as well be discharged, the sooner the better. Momentarily we did-then would come oblivion and the awful awakening to face the hideous Four Horsemen-Terror, Bewilderment, Frustration, Despair. The answer depends on whether you only include the first 164 pages or the stories too. If that is so, this step may be postponed, only, however, if we hold ourselves in complete readiness to go through with it at the first opportunity. The publication of this book has not been authorized or endorsed by, and does not imply affilia-tion with Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc. or the General Service Office of Alcoholics Anonymous. The main thing is that he be willing to believe in a Power greater than himself and that he live by spiritual principles. It may cause him to die a few years before his time. There are two alcoholic employees, who produce as much as five normal salesmen. None of us makes a sole vocation of this work, nor do we think its effectiveness would be increased if we did. All this time our friend of the hotel lobby incident remained in that town. Cheer him up and ask him how you can be still more helpful. In the last analysis it is only there that He may be found. Welcome to silkworth.net. We found that God does not make too hard terms with those who seek Him. We dont struggle. The inventory was ours, not the other mans. The man in the bed was told of the acute poisoning from which he suffered, how it deteriorates the body of an alcoholic and warps his mind. Our real purpose is to fit ourselves to be of maximum service to God and the people about us. Big Book Alcoholics Anonymous Big Book First 164. He admitted he was overdoing these things, but frankly said that he was not ready to stop. Surrender in Big Book terms means to: "Abandon yourself to God as you understand God." (BB pg 164) It set in motion trains of circumstances which brought us misfortune we felt we didnt deserve. Includes pages 1-164 and: - The original Foreword - The Doctor's Opinion - Dr. Bob's Story - If you can't find the passages cited in your Big Book, try the provided chapter/story name as an aid. He and his wife would leave elated by the thought of what they could now do for some stricken acquaintance and his family. So let each family play together or separately, as much as their circumstances warrant. The best way to get in touch with Alcoholics Anonymous is through your local telephone book by simply looking up Alcoholics Anonymous in the White Pages. Big Book Google Books The Big Book is well over 400 pages long and contains numerous chapters. He too, has become a respected and useful member of his community. They run to extremes. For when harboring such feelings we shut ourselves off from the sunlight of the Spirit. Let him see that you want to be helpful rather than critical. Is it not because each wants to play the lead? In another case, an alcoholic was sent to a hospital for treatment. At the hospital I was separated from alcohol for the last time. They criticize, pointing out how he is falling down on his spiritual program. Sometimes he explodes over a trifle. Friends who have reasoned with him after a spree which has brought him to the point of divorce or bankruptcy are mystified when he walks directly into a saloon. You act like one. Just be careful not to disagree in a resentful or critical spirit. But after a while we had to face the fact that we must find a spiritual basis of life-or else. That is, if he is lucky enough to have a home. That being so you have swallowed and digested some big chunks of truth about yourself. I have been learning something about alcoholism. What was our choice to be? And so I did. I have not had a drink since. Our human resources, as marshalled by the will, were not sufficient; they failed utterly. We do talk about each other a great deal, but we almost invariably temper such talk by a spirit of love and tolerance. My friend promised when these things were done I would enter upon a new relationship with my Creator; that I would have the elements of a way of living which answered all my problems. But does he? God has abundantly supplied this world with fine doctors, psychologists, and practitioners of various kinds. I pushed a drink across the table. Do not ask that he do it for you or anyone else. Jericho Season 3: Civil War is a comic book limited series of six issues that continues the storyline of the CBS television show Jericho. He may be more receptive when depressed. If he wishes to talk, let him do so. The Little Big Book avoids sexist language, and welcomes people of all lifestyles and faiths. He need not, and often should not show it to his alcoholic prospect. It takes some of us a long time to outgrow that serious handicap. 68 FEAR - We ask Him to remove our fear and direct our attention to what He would have us be. 1-164) or in the Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions. For most cases, there is virtually no other solution.. The man must decide for himself. The web site uses a less-restrictive set of common words than the printed book. Science tells us so. The alcoholic is like a tornado roaring his way through the lives of others. You should point out that his defects of character are not going to disappear over night. Some of us had this experience, only to enjoy, in a few months, a finer intimacy than ever. It never occurred to him that perhaps he could not do so, in spite of his character and standing. We went at once to the country, my wife to applaud while I started out to overtake Walter Hagen. We are in the world to play the role He assigns. A reasonable amount of latitude will be helpful. We had long talks when I would still her forebodings by telling her that men of genius conceived their best projects when drunk; that the most majestic constructions of philosophic thought were so derived. Childhood memories rose before me. He will match your mental inconsistencies with some of his own. Press "Calculate Number of Pages". Now translated into over 70 languages, it is still considered A.A.'s basic text. Those words are simply not written down in the first 164 pages yet, our literature DOES have multiple references to the idea of taking the Steps. First published in 1939, its purpose was to show other alcoholics how the first 100 people of A.A. got sober. He got in touch with a prominent psychiatrist who had undertaken certain responsibilities for the mental health of the community. Almost none of us liked the self- searching, the leveling of our pride, the confession of shortcomings which the process requires for its successful consummation. We reviewed our own conduct over the years past. At long last I saw, I felt, I believed. There had been no more power in him than there was in me at the minute; and this was none at all. We stood at the turning point. The Big Book - The main 164 pages, Prayers, Personal Stories, and more! For example, the word "surrender" does not occur in the A.A. literature covered by 164 and More. 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